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  How much of Wicca can be traced to the Celts?
      Wicca is a religion based, in part, on ancient, northern European Pagan
      beliefs in a fertility Goddess and her consort, a horned God. Although the
      religion is a modern creation, some of its sources pre-date the Christian
      era by many centuries. Most Wiccans do not believe that their religion is
      a direct, continuous descendent of this earlier religion. They see it as a
      modern reconstruction. 
      Joanna Hautin-Mayer has written:
        "We know tragically little about the actual religious expressions of the
        ancient Celts. We have a few myths and legends, but very little
        archeological evidence to support our theories. We have no written
        records of their actual forms of worship, and the accounts of their
        culture and beliefs written by their contemporaries are often highly
        biased and of questionable historical worth." 1
      Ms. Hautin-Mayer is particularly critical of recent Neopagan books which
      she demonstrates to be largely fictional accounts of the history of Witta
      3 (presented as an Irish Pagan tradition),  Faery Wicca  4 (presented as
      an ancient tradition), and 21 Lessons of Merlyn 5 (a somewhat racist and
      sexist account of Druidism).
      Silver RavenWolf wrote in 1998:
        "Wicca, as you practice the religion today, is a new religion, barely
        fifty years old. The techniques you use at present are not entirely what
        your elders practiced even thirty years ago. Of course, threads of 'what
        was' weave through the tapestry of 'what is now.' ...in no way can we
        replicate to perfection the precise circumstances of environment,
        society, culture, religion and magick a hundred years ago, or a
        thousand.   Why would we want to ? The idea is to go forward with the
        knowledge of the past, tempered by the tools of our own age." 2

      Writings that formed the basis of Wicca:
      Much of modern-day Wicca can be directly traced back to the writings of:
            Charles Leland (1824-1903) published a book in 1899: Aradia: Gospel
            of the Witches. 8 Leland was the founder of the Gypsy Lore Society,

 

culture, religion and magick a hundred years ago, or a
        thousand.   Why would we want to ? The idea is to go forward with the
        knowledge of the past, tempered by the tools of our own age." 2

      Writings that formed the basis of Wicca:
      Much of modern-day Wicca can be directly traced back to the writings of:
            Charles Leland (1824-1903) published a book in 1899: Aradia: Gospel
            of the Witches. 8 Leland was the founder of the Gypsy Lore Society,
            editor of the Philadelphia Bulletin, and a prolific author and
            folklorist. Aradia deals mainly with the Goddess Diana. It is
            presented as an ancient document which recorded the doctrines of La
            Vecchia Religione (The Old Religion) -- Italian witchcraft. Leland
            claims to have received the information from an Italian strega
            (sorceress) named Maddalena. How much of this is a valid account of
            La Vecchia Religione is anyone's guess. However, the book played a
            significant role in the later development of modern-day Neopaganism.
            Margaret Murray (1863 - 1963) authored The Witch Cult in Western
            Europe and The God of the Witches. 6 These books promoted the
            concept that some of the Witches who were exterminated by Roman
            Catholics and Protestants during the "Burning Times" (circa
            1450-1792) were remnants of an earlier, organized, and dominant
            pre-Christian religion in Europe. Her writings have not been well
            received by anthropologists. However, they were very influential in
            providing background material for the Neopagan traditions.
            Gerald Gardner (1884 - 1964), a British civil servant, who:
                  has written that he joined an existing Wiccan Coven in 1939,
                  taking the (then) usual vows of secrecy

 persuaded the coven to let him write a book in 1949 about
                  Wicca in the form of a novel, High Magic's Aid. He carefully
                  revealed a few of the Old Religion's beliefs and the
                  historical persecutions that they endured.
                  added many rituals, symbols, concepts and elements from
                  ceremonial magick, Freemasonry and other sources to "flesh
                  out" the coven's beliefs and practices, most of which had been
                  long forgotten.
                  wrote Witchcraft Today in 1954 in which he described
                  additional details about the faith. 7
                  wrote The Meaning of Witchcraft which described in detail the
                  history of Wicca in Northern Europe. 7

 

  Theories about the origins of Wicca:
      There are many beliefs concerning the origins of Wicca:
            According to Gardner, Wicca: began in prehistory, as ritual
                  associated with fire, the hunt, animal fertility, plant
                  propagation, tribal fertility and the curing of disease.
                  developed into a religion which recognized a Supreme Deity,
                  but realized that at their state of evolution, they "were
                  incapable of understanding It" . Instead, they worshipped what
                  might be termed "under-Gods": the Goddess of fertility and her
                  horned consort, the God of the hunt.
                  continued their predominately Moon based worship, even as a
                  mainly Sun-based faith of priests, the Druids, developed and
                  evolved into the dominant religion of the Celts. By this time,
                  Celtic society had gradually spread across Northern Europe
                  into what is now England, France, Germany, Ireland,

 

 but realized that at their state of evolution, they "were
                  incapable of understanding It" . Instead, they worshipped what
                  might be termed "under-Gods": the Goddess of fertility and her
                  horned consort, the God of the hunt.
                  continued their predominately Moon based worship, even as a
                  mainly Sun-based faith of priests, the Druids, developed and
                  evolved into the dominant religion of the Celts. By this time,
                  Celtic society had gradually spread across Northern Europe
                  into what is now England, France, Germany, Ireland,
                  Netherlands, Scotland etc. They never formed a single
                  political entity, but remained as many tribes who shared a
                  common culture and religions.
                  survived the Roman, Saxon, and Norman invasions by going
                  underground
                  suffered major loss in numbers during the active Christian
                  genocides, which continued into the 18th Century
                  reached a low ebb by the middle of the 20th century. Much of
                  the theology and ritual had been lost; Wiccan covens had
                  become so isolated that they had lost contact with each other.
                  was revived in the UK by himself, his High Priestess Doreen
                  Valiente, (1922 - 1999) and others, who took the surviving
                  beliefs and practices, and fleshed them out with material from
                  other religious, spiritual and ceremonial magick sources.


        Gardner has claimed that after he wrote his books, he received many
        letters from members of isolated covens who had believed that their
        groups had been in continuous existence for generations or centuries.
            Other individuals discount this belief system and maintain that
            there was no continuous Wiccan presence from Celtic times to the
            20th century. They maintain that present-day Wicca was created by
            merging a few ancient Celtic beliefs, deity structure, and seasonal
            days of celebration with modern material from ceremonial magick, the
            Masonic Order, etc.

            Still others trace Wicca back to a little known faith group in New
            England in the early 20th century.


      Recent Wiccan history:
      There is general agreement that Wicca first became a mass movement in
      recent times in England during the 1950's with the publishing of books by
      Gerald Gardner. It has expanded at a furious rate in North America and
      Europe. 
      Wicca is one of the largest of the minority religions in the United
      States. There are no reliable estimates of the number of Wiccans in this
      country. Our best  estimate is on the order of 750,000. That would make
      Wicca about the 5th largest organized religion in the United States,
      behind Christianity, Islam, Judaism, and Hinduism. However it is virtually
      unknown by the general public. This is because almost all Wiccans hide
      their religious beliefs and practices. Those who allow their faith to be
      known publicly are very heavily persecuted in North America; on a
      per-capita basis, they are believed to be victimized more often than
      members of any other religious group. Many assaults, arson, economic
      attacks are reported yearly. There have even been shootings, one public
      mass stoning and one lynching in recent years! Reports circulate
      frequently of misinformed child protection officers seizing children from
      the homes of Wiccans because they feared that they would be killed or
      abused in some Satanic ritual. The perpetrators of this religious hatred
      are usually very devout, very concerned but terribly misinformed people.
      They believe the misinformation that has been spread about Witches
      continuously since the Middle Ages. It is only in Eastern Massachusetts,
      Southern California and in a few cities elsewhere in North America that
      most Wiccans feel secure enough to  come out of the (broom) closet in
      large numbers. In other areas, they tend to avoid persecution by keeping
      their religious faith secret. Unfortunately, this policy can have negative
      results; some people speculate that because Wiccans remain underground,
      they must have something to hide. This is a "no-win" situation with no
      obvious solution.
      The above paragraph was written in the mid 1990s. Since then, the
      situation has improved greatly. Many Wiccans have come out of the closet
      and revealed their faith openly. The public has become much more aware of
      Wicca and other Neopagan religions. The frequency of violence has
      decreased greatly, although there are still occasional accounts of
      vandalism and economic attacks.

 

 References used:
      The following information sources were used to prepare and update the
      above essay. The hyperlinks are not necessarily still active today.
        Joanna Hautin-Mayer, "When is a Celt not a Celt? An irreverent peek into
        Neopagan views of history," at:
        http://www.cyberwitch.com/wychwood/Library/ 
        Silver Ravenwolf, Llewellyn's 1999 Magickal Almanac, Llewellyn
        Publications, (1998)
        Edain McCoy, "Witta: An Irish Pagan Tradition," Llewellyn, (1993) Read
        reviews or order this book safely from Amazon.com online book store
        Kisma Stepanich, "Faery Wicca," Llewellyn, (2 volumes; 1994-95; Out of
        print).
        Douglas Monroe, "The 21 Lessons of Merlyn: A Study in Druid Magic and
        Lore," Llewellyn, (1993) Read reviews/order this book
        Margaret Murray, "God of the Witches," Oxford University Press,
        (Reprinted, 1992) Read reviews/order this book
        Gerald Gardner, "Gardner Witchcraft Series," Mercury Publ. (Reprint;
        1999). Includes his two books Witchcraft Today & The Meaning of
        Witchcraft, with a CD containing some historical recordings. Read
        reviews/order this set.
        Charles Leland & Mario Pazzaglini, "Aradia: Gospel of the Witches,"
        Phoenix Publ., (Expanded edition, 1999). The book corrects many of the
        original translation errors of Leyland's original. Read reviews/order
        this book

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The Burning Times

 

 

 

 The Witch hunt timeline
 Prior to the 9th century CE: There was a widespread popular belief that evil Witches existed. They were seen as evil persons, primarily women, who devoted their lives to harming and killing others through black magic and evil sorcery. The Catholic church at the time officially taught that such Witches did not exist. It was a heresy to say that they were real. "For example, the 5th century Synod of St. Patrick ruled that 'A Christian who believes that there is a vampire in the world, that is to say, a witch, is to be anathematized; whoever lays that reputation upon a living being shall not be received into the Church until he revokes with his own voice the crime that he has committed.' A capitulary from Saxony (775-790 CE) blamed these stereotypes on pagan belief systems: 'If anyone, deceived by the Devil, believes after the manner of the Pagans that any man or woman is a witch and eats men, and if on this account he burns [the alleged witch]... he shall be punished by capital sentence." 1 
 906 CE: Regino of Prum, the Abbot of Treves, wote the Canon Episcopi. It reinforced the church's teaching that Witches did not exist. It admitted that some confused and deluded women thought that they flew through the air with the Pagan Goddess Diana. But this did not happen in reality; it was explained away as some form of hallucination.
 Circa 975 CE: Penalties for Witchcraft and the use of healing magic were relatively mild. The English Confessional of Egbert said, in part: "If a woman works witchcraft and enchantment and [uses] magical philters, she shall fast for twelve months...If she kills anyone by her philters, she shall fast for seven years." Fasting, in this case, involved consuming only bread and water. 
 circa 1140: Gratian, an Italian monk, incorporated the Canon Episcopi into canon law.
 circa 1203: The Cathar movement, a Gnostic Christian group, had become popular in the Orleans area of France and in Italy. They were declared heretics. Pope Innocent III approved a war of genocide against the Cathars. The last known Cathar was burned at the stake in 1321 CE. The faith has seen a rebirth in recent years.
 1227: Pope Gregory IX established the Inquisitional Courts to arrest, try, convict and execute heretics.
 1252: Pope Innocent III authorized the use of torture during inquisitional trials. This greatly increased the conviction rate.
 1258: Pope Alexander IV instructed the Inquisition to confine their investigations to cases of heresy. They were to not investigate charges of divination or sorcery unless heresy was also involved.
 1265: Pope Clement IV reaffirms the use of torture.
 1326: The Church authorized the Inquisition to investigate Witchcraft and to develop "demonology," the theory of the diabolic origin of Witchcraft. 1
 1330: The popular concept of Witches as evil sorcerers is expanded to include belief that they swore allegiance to Satan, had sexual relations with the Devil, kidnapped and ate children, etc.
 1347 to 1349: The Black Death epidemic killed a sizeable part of the European population. Conspiracy theories spread. Lepers, Jews, Muslims and Witches were accused of poisoning wells and spreading disease.
 1430's: Christian theologians started to write articles and books which "proved" the existence of Witches. 2 
 1436-7: Johannes (John) Nider wrote a book called Formicarius, which describe the prosecution of a man for Witchcraft. Copies of this book were often added to the Malleus Maleficarum in later years. Some sources say that the author Thomas of Brabant; this is apparently an error.
 1450: The first major witch hunts began in many western European countries. The Roman Catholic Church created an imaginary evil religion, using stereotypes that had circulated since pre-Christian times. They said that Pagans who worshiped Diana and other Gods and Goddesses were evil Witches who kidnapped babies, killed and ate their victims, sold their soul to Satan, were in league with demons, flew through the air, met in the middle of the night, caused male impotence and infertility, caused male genitals to disappear, etc. Historians have speculated that this religiously inspired genocide was motivated by a desire by the Church to attain a complete religious monopoly, or was "a tool of repression, a form of reining-in deviant behavior, a backlash against women, or a tool of the common people to name scapegoats for spoiled crops, dead livestock or the death of babies and children." Walter Stephens, a professor of Italian studies at Johns Hopkins University, proposes a new theory: "I think Witches were a scapegoat for God." 3 Religious leaders felt that they had to retain the concepts of both an omnipotent and an all-loving deity. Thus, they had to invent Witches and demons in order to explain the existence of evil in the world. This debate, about how an all-good and all-powerful God can coexist in the world with evil is now called Theodicy. Debate continues to the present day. 
 1450: Johann Gutenberg invented moveable type which made mass printing possible. This enabled the wide distribution of Papal bulls and books on Witch persecution; the witch hunt was greatly facilitated. 
 1484: Pope Innocent VIII issued a papal bull "Summis desiderantes" on DEC-5 which promoted the tracking down, torturing and executing of Satan worshipers.
 1486-1487: Institoris (Heinrich Kraemer) and Jacob Sprenger published the Malleus Maleficarum (The Witches' Hammer). It is a fascinating study of the authors' misogyny and sexual frustration. It describes the activities of Witches, the methods of extracting confessions. It was later abandoned by the Church, but became the "bible" of those secular courts which tried Witches.
 1500: During the 14th century, there had been known 38 trials against Witches and sorcerers in England, 95 in France and 80 in Germany. 4  The witch hunts accelerated. "By choosing to give their souls over to the devil witches had committed crimes against man and against God. The gravity of this double crime classified witchcraft as crimen exceptum, and allowed for the suspension of normal rules of evidence in order to punish the guilty." 7 Children's testimony was accepted. Essentially unlimited torture was applied to obtain confessions. The flimsiest circumstantial evidence was accepted as proof of guilt.
 1517: Martin Luther is commonly believed to have nailed his 95 theses on the cathedral door at Wittenburg, Germany. Apparently it never happened; he published his arguments in a less dramatic way. This triggered the Protestant Reformation. In Roman Catholic countries, the courts continue to burn witches. In Protestant lands, they were mainly hung. Some Protestant countries did not allow torture. In England, this lack of torture led to a low conviction rate of only 19%. 4
 Circa 1550 to 1650 CE: Trials and executions reached a peak during these ten decades, which are often referred to as the "burning times." They were mostly concentrated in eastern France, Germany and Switzerland. Witch persecutions often occurred in areas where Catholics and Protestants were fighting. Contrary to public opinion, suspected witches -- particularly those involved in evil sorcery -- were mainly tried by secular courts. A minority were charged by church authorities; these were often cases involving the use of healing magic or midwifery. 1
 1563: Johann Weyer (b. 1515) published a book which was critical of the Witch trials. Called "De Praestigiis Daemonum" (Shipwreck of souls), it argued that Witches did not really exist, but that Satan promoted the belief that they did. He rejected confessions obtained through torture as worthless. He recommended medical treatment instead of torture and execution. By publishing the book anonymously, he escaped the stake. 8
 1580: Jean Bodin wrote "De la Demonomanie des Sorciers" (Of the punishments deserved by Witches). He stated that the punishment of Witches was required, both for the security of the state and to appease the wrath of God. No accused Witch should be set free if there is even a scrap of evidence that she might be guilty. If prosecutors waited for solid evidence, he felt that not one Witch in a million would be punished.
 1584: Reginald Scot published a book that was ahead of its time. In Discoverie of Witchcraft, he claimed that supernatural powers did not exist. Thus, there were no Witches.
 1608: Francesco Maria Guazzo published the "Compendium Maleficarum." It discusses Witches' pacts with Satan, the magic that Witches use to harm others, etc.
 circa 1609: A witch panic hit the Basque areas of Spain. La Suprema, the governing body of the Inquisition, recognized it as a hoax and issued an Edict of Silence which prohibited discussion of witchcraft. The panic quickly died down.
 1610: Execution of Witches in the Netherlands ceased, probably because of Weyer's 1563 book.
 1616:  A second witch craze broke out in Vizcaya. Again an Edict of Silence was issued by the Inquisition. But the king overturned the Edict and 300 accused witches were burned alive.
 1631: Friedrich Spee von Langenfield, a Jesuit priest, wrote "Cautio criminalis" (Circumspection in Criminal Cases). He condemned the witch hunts and persecution in Wurzburg, Germany. He wrote that the accused confessed only because they were the victims of sadistic tortures.
 1684: The last accused Witch was executed in England.
 1690's: Nearly 25 people died during the witch craze in Salem, MA: one was pressed to death with weights because he wouldn't enter a plea; some died in prison, the rest were hanged. 5 There were other trials and executions throughout New England. 
 1745: France stopped the execution of Witches.
 1775: Germany stopped the execution of Witches.
 1782: Switzerland stopped the execution of Witches.
 1792: Poland executed the last person in Europe who had been tried and convicted of Witchcraft. A few isolated extra-legal lynchings of Witches continued in Europe and North America into the 20th century.
 1830's: The church ceased the execution of Witches in South America.
 1980: Dr. Lawrence Pazder (1936 - 2004) and Michelle Smith wrote "Michelle Remembers." The concept of humans in league with Satan, which had been largely dormant for decades, was revived. Although the book has been shown to be a work of fiction, it is presented as factual, based on Michelle's recovered memories. 6 This book was largely responsible for triggering a new Witch/Satanist panic in the U.S. and Canada.
 1980 to 1995: Two types of trials were held in North America, which repeated many of the same features of earlier Witch trials:  Staff at some pre-schools, day care facilities and Sunday schools were accused of ritual abuse of children. Evidence was based on faulty medical diagnoses and memories of non-existent abuse implanted in the minds of very young children.
 Tens of thousands of adults, victimized by Recovered Memory Therapy, developed false memories of having been abused during childhood. In about 17% of the cases, these memories escalated to recollections of Satanic Ritual Abuse. Hundreds of parents were charged with criminal acts. Almost all of them were innocent. Most of the charges involved acts that never actually happened.

Sanity has since prevailed. Most of the accused have been released from jail. Those held in the state of Massachusetts are an exception.
 
 1990's: Some conservative Christian pastors continue to link two unrelated belief systems:   The imaginary religion of Satan-worshiping Witches promoted by the Church during the Renaissance, and 
 Wicca and other Neopagan religions which are nature-based faiths and which do not recognize the existence of the Christian devil.
 
 1994 to 1996: Several hundred people were accused of witchcraft in the Northern Province of South Africa, and were lynched by frightened mobs. 8
 1999: Conservative Christian pastors occasionally call for a renewal of the burning times, to exterminate Wiccans and other Neopagans. One example shows the intensity of misinformation and hatred that fear of Witches can continue to generate in modern times. In 1999-AUG, Rev. Jack Harvey, pastor of Tabernacle Independent Baptist Church in Killeen, TX allegedly arranged for at least one member of his church to carry a handgun during religious services, "in case a warlock tries to grab one of our kids...I've heard they drink blood, eat babies. They have fires, they probably cook them..." During speeches which preceded his church's demonstration against Wiccans, Rev. Harvey allegedly stated that the U.S. Army should napalm Witches. One of the Christian's signs read "Witchcraft is an abomination" on one side and "Burn the witches off Ft. Hood" on the other. 9 (Ft. Hood is a large army base near Killeen TX. A Wiccan faith group is active there.)

 

 

 

 

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What should Christians do if their child gets involved in Wicca?

 

     If you are a Christian parent and your child is getting involved in Wicca, what should you do? Should you become authoritative and deny your child the practice of Wicca? Should you let him or her get involved and trust that the Lord will work it out? Or, should you research it and learn about it so you might know how to deal with it? These and other questions are common from Christian parents who find out that their children are involved in Wicca. Here's what you should do.
     First of all, you need to read the Bible and pray regularly. You need to realize that this is a spiritual battle and that there are demonic forces involved. You cannot expect to win a spiritual battle if you are not praying.  
     Second, what should you pray for? Pray for the binding of the enemy, for spiritual insight, for protection in your home, protection for your children, yourself, your finances, your automobiles, your health, etc. I do not say these things lightly.
     Once I began researching Wicca in order to write and expose it on this web site, within a two-week period several things happened. I had a nightmare so unpleasant that I woke up and immediately knew it was tied to Wicca.  I got a flat tire on the freeway, lost my medical insurance at work, was involved in a boating accident where I was injured (and am still recovering from it), have had two individuals attack me personally on the internet and published falsehoods about me, and my e-mail program I use for sending out the CARM newsletter, which has worked for several years, suddenly and unexpectedly crashed. My point is this. When you start tackling the occult, get ready for a ride. The enemy does not like what you're doing so you need to be prayed up.  At this point, I recommend CPR.  Confess (your sins), Pray (for guidance), and Read (the Bible).  It will keep you spiritually alive.
     Third, seek the prayer support of others and the involvement, if possible, of the elders of your church in prayer as well.  In addition, see if you can find friends and family who are mature in the Lord with whom you can discuss the issue and obtain further counsel.
     Fourth, you must not beat yourself up over your child's involvement in the occult.  Every parent makes mistakes in raising children and we can never predict accurately what results will come of our loving and guiding actions upon our children.  There is a dark influence in the world that seeks to ensnare anyone and everyone it can.  Don't go around thinking that you didn't do enough praying or go to church enough.  Just seek the Lord in prayer, confess any sins you may have committed in this area, forsake them, receive forgiveness from the Lord, and continue on.  Guilt can cloud your judgment and your prayer life.  Look to Jesus first.
     Fifth, learn enough about Wicca (by reading CARM and other resources) so that you know what it is you're dealing with when you speak to your child about it.
     Sixth, you need to realize that Wicca is not Satanism.  Wiccans do not practice human sacrifices, cursing, summoning demonic forces, etc.  Wiccans seek to find harmony in nature and try and use their influence for good.  Of course, that influence has a dark origin.
     Seventh, don't scream and yell at your child for his or her involvement in Wicca. 
     Eight, speak to your child rationally, calmly, and intelligently about the choices he is making and try and bring to his attention that there is no way for him to verify whether or not what he is trying to contact and work with is ultimately good or bad.  Just because something works it doesn't mean it's from God. If you are angry with your child and try and force him to comply with everything that you desire, it may backfire on you.  Resistance often results in rebellion and involvement in something ungodly.  This is why wisdom must be used when dealing with someone who is getting involved or has been involved in Wicca.
     Ninth, ask lots of questions.  You will find that the more questions you ask, the more you will earn the right to speak.  Also, you'll discover problems in those answers because those answers will not be rationally consistent.  At this point, you can carefully begin to point out various problems that you discover within Wicca.
     Tenth, deal with the occult paraphernalia. This is where it gets more difficult. If you were to suddenly confiscate everything this may or may not work. Only you will know whether or not that is the right thing to do. In my household, if my child who was still in her early teens, got involved with something like this, I would first speak to her clearly and rationally about what Wicca is, the dangers that are inherent in it, etc. I would ask her to tell me how she knew that the source of what she is trying to contact is good or bad. I would then tell her that as a father who is seeking to be godly, I cannot permit her involvement in my home which is ungodly and unholy to begin with. I would say that she may not believe what I just said was true, but because I am the father in the head of the household, since I love her and want what is best for her, and since I pay the mortgage, I have the right in the home to remove from it that which I believe is harmful.
     I would say all these things in a calm and loving tone while I am asking my daughter for feedback. I would further state that if, just if, what she was doing was indeed contacting something that was harmful, then she would be inadvertently putting her family at spiritual risk.
     Now, the children-parent dynamic is different in every household and it is always difficult to know exactly what the right thing to do and say really is. But you need to have a plan of action and you need to stick with that action.
     Eleventh, don't shove Christian theology down their throats. It is not the adamant proclamation of doctrinal purity from a Christian perspective that is guaranteed to win Wiccans to the Lord. Preaching incessantly about the devil, the occult, damnation, and "you should know better," is not as effective as a decent, calm, and rational approach presented in love.
     Twelfth, trust God. Trust the Lord Jesus beyond your ability to comprehend. Lift your child to him in prayer and supplication and ask that he redeem your child, break the bonds of darkness, and bring him into relationship with Christ.

 


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 This is the Biggest Reason I say" Don't Ask Don't Tell"

This is not however what happens as Rai, and other who have told their Parents can attest.

Please stop advising others to be HONEST, when that is clearly too dangerous.

 

  This sounds scary and yeah it's meant to terrorize Your parents . The web site this came from is posted at the top of the article. I choose to ignore and pity these people myself just as I pity and Ignore certain relatives that I have trouble with. Let me offer A counter point.  

 

 

My Parents Don't Want Me To Be Wiccan - - Can't I Just Lie?

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Question: My Parents Don't Want Me To Be Wiccan -- Can't I Just Lie?

 

My parents don't think I should study Wicca because our family is Christian. I'm thinking about just telling them I'm not studying Wicca, but doing it anyway and just not telling them, or maybe telling them I'm still Christian. I have a place I can hide some books, and I can probably find someone to teach me in secret. This should be ok, right?

 

Answer:

No, no, a thousand times NO.

If you’re underage, then whether you like it or not your parents are responsible for you, and ultimately get to make decisions for you. If you’ve decided to convert to Wicca or Paganism, you need to have a serious heart-to-heart conversation with your parents. They either (a) won’t know what you’re talking about (b) are going to be really opposed to it because of their own religious doctrine, or (c) are willing to let you explore your own paths as long as you do so in an informed and intelligent manner.

If mom and dad have no idea what Wicca or Paganism is, it might not be a bad idea to educate them. To do that, you’ll need to figure out first what it is you actually believe – because if you don’t know, how can you share it other people? Make a list of the things you believe in, so you can share it with them. This may include your thoughts on reincarnation, sin, your personal interpretation of the Harm None rule, or ideas on how Wicca or Paganism can empower you and make you grow as a human being. If you can sit down and have a mature and rational discussion with them – and that means no throwing stuff and shouting “YOU JUST DON’T UNDERSTAND!!” – then you may have a better chance of convincing them that it’s okay.

Remember, they are concerned for your safety, and so it’s important that you answer their questions truthfully. There’s a great book called "When Someone You Love Is Wiccan", which I would recommend sharing with your parents or other family members who might have questions.

In some cases, parents may strongly object to their child’s practicing Wicca or Paganism. This is usually because of the teachings of their religious beliefs – and as parents, that is their right. They are entitled to tell their child that he or she is not allowed to practice Wicca, belong to a coven, or even own books about the subject. If this is the case in your family, there are a number of things you can do.

First of all, don’t lie. No spiritual path can get off to a good start if it begins with deception. Secondly, you can learn and study non-Wiccan subjects while you live in your parents’ home. Mythology, history, herb and plant lore, astronomy, even the religion your parents follow – all of these are things that will come in handy later on. Save your Pagan books for when you’re an adult and have moved into your own home. Wicca will still be there after you turn eighteen, so as long as you’re living under mom and dad’s roof, respect their wishes.

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Finally, you might be fortunate enough to have parents who will allow you to practice Wicca or a Pagan path with their blessing, as long you make an informed and educated decision. In these cases, you may have parents who are Pagan themselves, or they may understand that spirituality is a very personal choice. Whatever their reasons, be thankful that they care, and share information with them at every opportunity. They will want to know you are safe, so be honest and open with them.

Even if they allow you to become Wiccan or Pagan, your parents may still have rules they expect you to follow, and that’s okay too. Perhaps they don’t mind you doing magic, but they don’t want you burning candles in your room. That’s fine – find an acceptable substitute for candles. Maybe they’re okay with you learning about Wicca, but they’re concerned about you joining a coven while you’re still underage. That’s a legitimate worry. No sneaking out to meet with the local coven! Find ways to study and learn on your own, and when you’re an adult you can find a group then. Another option might be to form a study group of some sort with other people your own age, if your parents don’t object.

Remember, the key here is honesty and integrity. You may not like your parents’ rules, but you do have to follow them. Lying will get you nowhere, and will present Wicca and Paganism in a negative light. Remember it’s their job as parents to be worried about you. It’s your job as the child to be respectful and honest with them.